Rpms drop, car is about to stall, check engine light. I would not use any harsh cleaners. Anyway of finding out "Dons" outcome? - Nick at Pelican Parts. I have a rough idle when warm which goes away if A/C is switched on higher rpm. I also swapped them when re-installing. We're reinventing the way the world sleeps on adjustable beds. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. HOW IS POSSIBLE? If cyl# 3 is always misfiring, I would check compression on it, as well as spark and fuel. You can have worn or faulty VANOS parts. Give The Pelican Parts parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. Many thanks in advance for your time! They can figure out what part or repair kit you need. I have to buy new ones. Pulled the codes again and have misfires on 4, 5 and 6 along with 2A43: valvetronic thermal overload protection warning. the car is in engine malfunction reduced power mode. You can test the solenoid electrically to confirm it is OK. Comm,and it on while monitoring current. Cleaned the vanos solenoids and tested their coils and they were fine their coils both read 10.5 ohms on the digital multimeter. BTW the car runs beautiful, no problem in driving. Check mechanical timing.- Nick at Pelican Parts. I believe those are misfire fault codes. Try installing the camshaft and crankshaft timing tools and see if the engine is out of time. ive been reading and searching online a lot of ppl had this stalling problems. Please Help. I've NEVER had a problem with the car. If you suspect fuel pump, I would start by checking the fuel trim numbers at idle and when the problem is present driving. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Is it okay to use some brake cleaner on the solenoid? https://www.pelicanparts.com/More_Info/ATSDSI1040.htm?pn=ATS-DSI1040&SVSVSI=MF57&DID=172948 The Librarys formidable strengths in literature reflect Henry E. Huntingtons focus on the history and culture of English-speaking peoples. In the event the solenoid fails could one expect to physically see the exhaust cam position out of time when removing the valvecover with the engine off? but a code referring an axle, sounds like a drivetrain code. Thanks a lot again! - Nick at Pelican Parts. I would start there. Any idea? Try swapping the VANOS solenoids bank to bank. Now, at regular idle is hiccups and misses and is very noticeable and sometimes will raise its idle to 700 but misfire is still noticeable, seems to slightly miss under acceleration around 1K-2K rpms. It could be faulty VANOS actuators or camshaft ledge issues. Sounds off. I am just about to order a set of vanos solenoids and just wanted a second opinion to make sure I am doing the right thing. Does it feel like a misfire? Here is a thorough list of items to test and check with VANOS malfunctions. There is a 12 volt power by the connector but have no means to check an electronic signal Any simple way to check it? To reset this I need to pull over, turn off the car and start it back again. - Nick at Pelican Parts. So my question is: is it possible that i need to replace also the sparks plug? HI Nick, thanks for your advise on cleaning the vanos solenoids. With your vehicle info handy, give The Pelican Parts parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. Think cleaning solenoids is a cheap quickcheck on the idling/dying? As the result of focused collecting activity from the late 1970s on, the Library now holds approximately 35,000 plans, renderings, photographs, and project records from around 1900 through the 1950s. Hard to say without being able to hear the noise in person. At idle, I get a very slight stumble/shake every 5-6 seconds.It's NOT a very heavy stumble/shake and I just had a complete tune up done; coils, plugs, turbos and injectors etc. - Nick at Pelican Parts, hi again - vin a101812. - Nick at Pelican Parts. How big is the problem? The second episode happened in the morning when backing out. If not the water pump is likely faulty. Just under low power acceleration between 2000 and 3000 rpm it's like your on and off the gas really fast. - Nick at Pelican Parts. The code is stil there. For confirmation you can ask him to measure crankcase vacuum and it should be around 7 inches of water, any higher vacuum means the valve is bad. If it functions normally, you can assume it is the actuator.- Nick at Pelican Parts. It could be a work chain guide. Your model should be the same. Your E-Mail and/or password are incorrect. It's the only code showing. what are the VANOS angles - actual verse desired? They can figure out what part or repair kit you need. Check if the drive belt is coming apart and entering the crankshaft seal. I would start by checking the vehicle for fault codes. The old hot wire sensors were much tougher. After re-assembly, fired up the car, runs good no more mis-firings etc., however now i get some noises rattling around the front end of engine near timing chain areas? When I was replacing busted expansion tank I removed the air filter housing and a sensor. Any help would be great since no codes are being recorded. Was looking to see if there was any advice thanks. In working on my sons 2006 BMW 325i E90, car started to miss and shudder at a cold start. I can't say how long you can drive it, never know how or what is going to fail. Thanks, Jim, Diagram here: https://www.pelicanparts.com/BMW/techarticles/BMW-3-Series-E90/ENGINE-Crankcase_Breather_Valve_Replacement/ENGINE-Crankcase_Breather_Valve_Replacement.htm - Nick at Pelican Parts, Nick, I have the model that doesn't have a dipstick but it does have a tube on the rear of the engine, almost up against the firewall. Compression should show if timing is off. ??? pd when i start the car its start just fine after 6-10 seconds of normal idle the shaking problem come on , please note all the car services were on date and on the bmw dealer. I would start by checking the DME for fault codes. I have noticed when the light turns on I am always on the highway. Concentrating on 2A87 I decided to clean exhaust VANOS solenoid. They can vary depending on model. like i said i use autocom cdp for live data runs and that can show vanos positions,, with 130k on it for sure the chain will be worn i would think most barely make it to 80k so of were done at 80k its where prob needs doing again,, the other ways to tell is use a dummy tenioner that screws in to when chain tensioner goes and can measure the travel, or remove rocker cover and look down where tensioner sits and anything more than about 10mm showing out of tensioner its toast . Read the codes and tried resetting them. It could be pulling down the entire system. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Also swap sides while you are at it. Please help me. The car display message "Engine malfunction reduce power" within 3 or 4 miles of starting now. However, there is no limit excess for the CO emmission. Also make sure your engine oil level is OK. - Nick at Pelican Parts. The number 3 seems a little lowder than is used to be.Slow start and rough idle other than that the car runs fine. oil pressor sensor ,and i replace it valve gasket , the 6 coils , vtt gasket because it leak on the coils #4 and #3. now the car just stall . When your engine doesnt start youll want to check the basics. As I pick up the car he tells me "ma'am I'm not sure what's with the oil leak in that car but I'd get rid of it ASAP". Can you tell from the error code if is the exhaust or the intake I should try to clean? I checkd DME fault code and comes the code 2a82 Inlet-Vanos variable cam control test! Should I replace the vanos solenoids? They can figure out what part or repair kit you need. i willl attatch a screenshot for the faults. Not sure where to look next. This could be a sensor issue or mechanical timing. Don't have a reader so I'm going off their judgement. I would guess mechanical timing is off. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hello Nick As advised by you pressure tested cooling system Its holding @14.5 psi for over 2 hrs. The engine light goes out by itself when I restart the car. - Nick at Pelican Parts. 2006 325i Two issues came up while removing the solenoid valves: 1. He called a tech who said from reading he had, Vanos solenoids need replacing and camshaft has more than likely gone back to rest position??? One for the intake camshaft and one for the exhaust camshaft, mounted to the front of cylinder head. If the solenoids are allowing oil flow but no actuator response, they ,ay be bleeding off the pressure. - Nick at Pelican Parts. How did you check timing and the camshaft ledge? - Nick at Pelican Parts. However for the past few days, strange "clark clark" noise just like sound of the metal ball in a spray paint can were heard from the engine bay while I press the throttle slightly when accelerate from 0KM/h around 600-1000rpm. See other question for guidance. You could have a faulty VANOS actuator or worn timing chain components. So, by rinsing it with tap water avoid the connection module from getting wet is totally fine right? Took it to get a scanned and code P1553 came up and two other ones all pointed out to the VENOS Will the sound go away after I change them? Is noise gone? No, they are not. It turns on and cranks fine, I have no engine performance loss, Fuel trims are correct at idle and PSI Fuel Pressure reading is Fluctuating between 67-75 PSIIt was on Empty when I read the Fuel Pressure so I don't know if that matters. I also cheque the oil cap, fuel cap. I cleared the code and then swapped the VANOS solenoids, but the fault still comes up in the 2a87 Exhaust not the intake, so I am now leaning to the bearing ledge? Should be somewhere around 200- 220f. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi there I have a problem with BMW 325i 2005 vin WBAVB16060NB24189 the car has a rough idle at times, I have cleaned the vanos solenoids when the car idles rough there is no engine light coming on but while driving it can turn on the engine light while the car runs fine the fault codes are fot the vanos intake or exhaust and sometimes both of them.When the car has the rough idle I shut the engine down and restart the engine and all is good for the day or sometimes only for 10 minutes. When I have to take of engine does to respond to accelerator unless I take off very gently. 4 No check engine light so far. Going to do it myself with a friend who was an aircraft mechanic in the air force. They need to be tested using an amp meter. No problems in the last 2 days. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Nick, glad there's comments and answers blog here, i had ordered valve cover to replace my crankcase ventilation due to the whistling noise and however the car still shakes a little, very soft as a child was moving on the back seat bit during traffic light on Drive and foot on break. The guy who cancelled the light cant remember and seems disinterested in helping any further. That can be due to sludge or jamming. Hard to say with little info. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I would check mechanical engine timing. I replaced both vanos solenoids and now the car acts like the timing is off. Doesn't even sound like it's trying to fire. This problem only seems to occur when the car has been sitting unused for more them 5+ hours. The SES light come and gone a couple times. What parts should I have my indy mechanic replace, so I get peace of mind that car won't continue to have problems? i have found this vanos article quite useful and will attempt to clean the solenoids.how do i find out what number engine i have? I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. The engine runs fine but it has a 2A83 vanos intake error. BMW checked it, said there were no problems with all parts working well and just did a software updatefor $400!!! I have installed a new exhaust camshaftsensor, nothing changed. I also plan to change VCG, coils gasket, vacuum pump gasket and oil filter gasket + engine flush and new oil. Give The Pelican Parts parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. This will be your best bet when diagnosing. I have a 2006 330XI E90?. I had the intake came timing retarded error and replaced both the solenoid and filter screen with not effect. I am getting error code C1303 on car-ii-codes.com says "Right Front Axle Solenoid Valve Hold Open/Shortened? The oil level on the dashboard computer says its perfect. My car 2005 e90 325i N52 was burning oil, needed to add 1l every 500km/300miles A mechanic changed CCV , while changing it, we found out the old crankcase hose was not even connected to the CCV. Thanks again for your help and quick response if VANOS is Ok. The car had indicators "Engine malfunction with adverse effect on exhaust emissions" lit up two times in two weeks, and also two times indicator "Full engine power is no longer available" along with bad shaking at idle. bimmerfest.com is an independent BMW enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. having an issue with bmw 325i E90. Bought it with 48,000 miles on it. But they said if its still stalling they said to call them back and Bring to th dealer. Or just rough running? I ended tracing the problem by spraying a propane tester on intake. Hi, N43B20 wont starts, codes 2A9A and 2A9B. I confused as to where the oil went to cause this situation. So, now after change the booth vanos solenoid and booth camshaft position sensor the engine light it just come 2 times and then it disappear again, what about the rpm? After reaching 2200 rpms the care run normal. They don't show up for me either, which is odd. Then, I would inspect the mechanical timing of the engine. Do I reverse the vanos or have an oil change? If it is a mechanical timing issue, how do I go about fixing it? The problem does not effect performance or engine power but I am now starting to feel this very slight stumble/cough/ shake when driving at around 30-45 mph ONLY SOMETIMES which I did not feel before. btw i'm the guy with the 316, If you're mot getting voltage at the motor, the issue may be with the fuse that feeds it, or the DME. Code seems to occur less frequently after oil change. With my obd scanner i can see that the highpressure fule pump have a pressure of 150 bar at the fulerail and the lowpressure 7,5 bar. I still get error code 2A87 Exhaust VANOS, mechanism. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Engine runs smooth and has great power but now idles at around 1200 RPM. Those faults are always timing related. Add an oil change to the procedure and you should be good. With cleaning the solenoids doesn't heal, what would be the next step you suggest? Recently I am intermittently getting the "engine malfunction running at reduced power". Try swapping the solenoids first and seeing if the fault follows the solenoid. I have a E90 320i from 2005.I have a problem. No, really harsh but it is definitely noticeable. my car E90 320I AUTO, driving up hill out of my drive one morning, engine stalled, EMU threw up OBD error codes P101f , P1061 , P1050. car failed to start, diagnoise problem, replaced sensor and brake shoes no more codes but will not start. So, he cancelled the light and hasnt started since! Should I take to dealer?. If the engine is hunting that is where I would start. Really appreciated. I've put 1 liter paraffin into a small container and dipped the VANOS Solenoids for 5min. If so, inspect components for looseness or noise. If your intake temp is skewed from the other two that could be your issue! dukedkt442 Anti-Hack Joined Feb 11, 2013 8,190 Posts I'm thinking of cleaning the old ones and putting them back in because I need a car to drive lol. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Since everything is new, the issue may be with the wiring or the DME. I did try replacing tmap sensor on intake charge pipe,map sensor,and cleaned the vanos solenoids. I would run a full scan using a BMW scan tool, to be sure it has been displayed correctly. Please advice. caused new codes any help, however specific or not would be great and much appreciated. Car runs fine, but noticed a slight performance drop when accelerating quickly. Greetings, Can you tell me the exact size/thread type of the 10 mm bolt holding the VANOS units in place? As I mentioned, the shop I took it couldn't repair it, so I need to take it elsewhere. Best bet is to Give The Pelican Parts parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. This morning I followed this article and cleaned up the two solenoid valves. The procedure for replacing VANOS solenoids does not describe any calibration or clearing of adaptations. The Huntingtons collection of over 400,000 books from the hand press era is one of the worlds richest sources for the printed record of Great Britain and the United States. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I would check spark, fuel and compression on all cylinders. however i reset the code it was perfectly fine and the next day the light went on again. it did not change anything. - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi Continue previous post Did try to run the engine Got it hot to 3/4 of a gauge PWM frequency still 100HZ Turned off the engine afraid of overheating At what point the fan motor supposedly kick in? So, I wonder if its just an issue of cleaning the VANOS solenoids? Replaced both. No! Don't know. Thanks for your great howtos and help! If low, assume the oil pump or a bearing has failed. Before, rattling only happens if I shift to D when the engine is still cold. https://us.autologic.com/news/fuel-trim-fuel-control-diagnosing-faults-part-1 - Nick at Pelican Parts. I did clean VANOS and spark plugs a year ago. Now I tried with unpluged O2 sensor,car starts normally and RPM was ca.720 constantly. The Huntington holds 900,000 historical prints, posters, and ephemera that date mostly from the late 1700s to the 1960s. Remove engine covers. if it moves to the other location, then replace them. They were not particularly sludged or anything. I replaced the eccentric shaft sensor and plugs and the challenge stopped when driving but it still idles rough. Reinstall and clear fault codes. - Nick at Pelican Parts, I have the S65 M3 engine and getting the code : 0x2766 VANOS valve outlet Bank 2 followed by limp mode. You can check that by using a timing chain pretension tool and checking for excessive movement in the adjusting guide. I can't help without knowing what is missing from the system when you are trying to start it. The chain guides may be worn from the oil consumption issue. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Thanks Nick and Cassey, your team is doing a great job here. I would double check the part numbers of your vehicle. These are the lights showing on the dash. Possible engine timing or major internal engine failure. Swapped Vanos and cam sensors over and still no start and the error didnt swap from intake to exhaust side. I can send more details if it's available. I would not drive ti until fixed, in case of engine misfire or timing jump. Are you trying to fix a fault code or a drivability issue? what do you suggest i do? You can clean the o-rings with oil its much safer. Thx, mike, I would check engine oil pressure. - Nick at Pelican Parts. If the system is not working properly, a fault code will be set. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Nick, Thank you so much for your reply. I'm no mechanic - and I haven't even opened up the hood of my car yet to see what type of MAF sensor I have! Is this just an issue of cleaning and/or replacing vanos solenoid also? 287D VANOS inlet actuator movement 2870 VANOS Inlet adaptation stop 2845 VANOS exhaust activation movement 2891 Inlet camshaft correlation Now from what i have found out it is to do with the timing chain, the car has done 121,000 miles but i bought it becuase it had a new timing chain in 2019 10,000 miles ago. You don't want to shoot in the dark on this, get those codes and let's go from there. Cold new vans solenoid be bad? Then the issue is likely the actuator or the timing chain components. I have a tool to do the adaptation I'm just waiting on a new obd2 port because mine was broken. If the timing is off, I would not suggest driving it. I have replaced intake vanos solenoid and intake cam sensor. its currently stalling, jerking at red lights, especially at cold starts in the morning. After two months with no light, the light came on again today. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Hey Nick, I have an 08 335i with 140k miles. Best way to test that theory is to remove and clean them. Give The Pelican Parts parts specialists a call at 1-888-280-7799. What fault code is stored? - Nick at Pelican Parts, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THIS SHINY, CYLINDRICAL PART WITH 2 WIRES AT THE TOP ? I would check for a vacuum leak, look at the intake ducts. This will be your best bet when diagnosing. A misfire and idling problem could they be caused by the Vanos? No issues were found over the past 9 months. After the night of thinking what could be wrong I disconnected the negative terminal on the battery resetting the ECU and the engine start running normal ,no warning light. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Now I am getting a very rough idle to where I have to put the car in neutral to keep it going at stops. If not, the actuator could be jammed, confirm by actuating it using your scan tool, monitor movement when you do so. - Nick at Pelican Parts. It was idling poorly and when I accelerated it would cut off and on like it was going to die. Addendum to previous comment: I also pulled the VANOS solenoids, cleaned, put back in swapped. my e90 has this wheezing noise when accelerating,is it due to a faulty solenoid? I did have the sensor replaced due to a broken gasket just under 1 yr ago by BMW dealer. Turns out that all the intake vanos bolts were sheared off and apparently one of the bolt heads did enough damage that the dealership replaced the engine. I have replaced crank position sensor and intake cam position sensor already, with no change in behavior. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts. I have a 2007 328i that stalled after CEL then low oil pressure light. You can try cleaning the solenoids or moving the installation positions first. Thanks in advance. Also try mechanics wire, fashion it into a hook. Any ideas here? - Nick at Pelican Parts, Hi my last seven number of the vin are: KY60342, the code fault is P0012, and i change already everything, vans solenoid, camshaft sensor, engine oil 4th times etcand i still have a problem and engine light come up sometimes, then it disappear. Copy and paste this code into your website. throwing 2a9a and 2a9b. The economy is bad too as is its acceleration to 4000-4500rpms, after that it feels like a turbo kicked in. - Nick at Pelican Parts. Is the VANOS active or stuck in that position? Help is greaty appreciated! If I keep pressing the gas the car keeps on vibrating and jerking. if the battery is working, what could be the cause of this? When the problem comes, the engine light and the engine will vibrate and go out if I do not gas. Gear D mode, foot pressure on break pedal. The problem amd the code cleared shen i turned it back on. I took me 1 hour to complete this, very easy just use CRC cleaner but remove o-rings first. Sounds like an engine misfire. - Nick at Pelican Parts. - Nick at Pelican Parts, I have a 2007 bmw x3 check engine light came on auto zone machine reads p0012 the truck shakes at light and makes squealing noise. Car run normally and without "check engin" light. Check timing via a bmw scan tool, is desired same as actual? i will appreciate for your assistance. Glad you got it worked out. Especially if the engine wasn't maintained well. This is the fault report: Engine / Motor: - Fault: Activate secondary air valve / Ubat outside ULF / Fuel trim bank 1 limit values / engine failure - Code: BMW 2A82 - Fault: :Supply voltage - Code: BMW 3100 I think there is something wrong in the air system, like MAP sensor, intake manifold or i don't know. Can you tell me the right thing, please! is it safe to drive it like this. It throws Vanos, valvetronic, and throttle body codes. Is it normal for vanos units to need replacement at this mileage? Hi Nick, I have a 2011 335i 130k miles. Since car has nearly 90 miles I decided to simply replace both camshaft sensors and both vanos solenoids. If I take the solenoids out and soak them in gasoline overnight, blow them out the next morning and re-install, performance improves for a few days. I have swapped the VANOS solenoids with no changes in the codes for the VANOS. could a sticky solenoid be the cause of a P0012 intake camshaft position timing order retarded? The code appears to describe a describe a short or open in a solenoid for the front axle or all wheel drive system. Just wanted to say thanks for a great post and easy to follow step by step guide. If it were degraded due to an issue, you would have a fault for fuel trim. 2007 328xi n52 e90 i'm think i'm going to go ahead and order a replacement cam position sensor. Again the light will come again after 10 mile of driving Pls if you have any idea about thi issue Thanks, I would smoke the engine for vacuum leaks. 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