He offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car, cause I wouldnt go to his place. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? His health failing, Hansen was moved to the Anchorage Correctional Complex on May 11. We just want her to be identified.'. The Special Agent had known that this killer would be into collecting trophies from his victims, that he would have very little self worth, and that hed have a burning hatred for women you know, the usual type thing, but to pinpoint this killers stutter is truly astonishing! CINDY: Nope. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. And, uh, I called back to her the next the next day or some oth or day or two afterwards. FLOTHE: OK. Others have never been found. CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. He was convicted of just four of the murders in a deal that spared him having to go to trial 17 times. Do you know your way around town well, or why did you happen to remember so well where it was at? CINDY: A police officer at the Sixth Avenue police department. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. Did you know the street name? CINDY: Regular Just working boots. The many other women who fell into Hansen's grasp were flown into the alaskan wilderness, near the Knik River, where Hansen had a cabin. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. Hansen would kidnap the women at gunpoint, tie them up, then fly to remote areas to kill them. This looks black but its actually blue. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. What was your reaction when you first read the script? Let's get it straight: "My wife befriended Cindy for months at all hours of the night and morning without ever meeting her until two days before she was to testify against Hansen. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. Glenn Flothe, AST. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. The Butcher Baker passed away of natural causes in August of 2014, he lived to be 75 years old. Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. FLOTHE: About what time? When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. I mean, bills, or did he just give you the change? And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. Just his whole work ethic I found fascinating, so I jumped at the opportunity to be able to do something with him. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. In June 1983, one of his victims, Cindy Paulson, managed to escape his car as he loaded his plane to take her to his cabin. And he had cuffed one of my hands, and I was trying to get loose and he pulled out a gun. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. His alibi - two friends - also admitted they had been lying. FLOTHE: Like this? He had been placed in medical segregation in Anchorage, which is akin to being in the hospital, Daigle said at the time. Robert chased after his intended victim, but it was no use. There was a bullet hole in the floor. FLOTHE: Where did he park the car? I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. FLOTHE: He had an automatic garage door opener? FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. She also discussed her fun cameo in Machete Kills and her upcoming films, Gimme Shelter and The Kitchen Sink. Darla was an exceptionally intelligent woman with a masters degree in education who made her living by tutoring school children; she was also a devout Christian who believed in God and the sanctity of marriage with all of her heart and soul. And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. CINDY: It was probably about a 72, cream-colored Datsun, with a kinda station wagon in the back, the kind that you used to It was about a 72 or 73. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. Hansen owned a bakery in a downtown mini mall and lived across town with his wife and children, who knew nothing of his double life. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. But when Cindy reached out to the police, they believed Hansen's story, which was again backed up by his powerful friends. FLOTHE: About how long did you have contact with him on Friday? Like a station wagon. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? He joined the ADN in 2004. The cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner but it appears he died of natural causes, she said. The trooper instinctively knew that the girl had been telling the whole truth, that Robert was his killer, and more women were going to die unless he was quickly stopped. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. Im a little confused about when the airplane seat got in and out of the car. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. I said, fine, we can do it in the car. No comments have so far been submitted. Thats why he did it. The only thing which he ever seemed to truly succeed in, the one thing which others commended him for, were his exceptional hunting skills. CINDY: Yes, its real Hell yeah, Im bothered by it. He was 75 years old. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. Glenn Flothe, AST. All Rights Reserved., https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/, Killers found not guilty by reason of insanity. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. In the early morning of June 13th 1983, (months before the other bodies were found) Cindy Paulson appeared on the side of the road. In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. Hudgens: Honestly, its even better than I thought it was going to be. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. CINDY: Yes, directly. When police were able to interview her, she explained her grizzly tale in detail. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. (pause) FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy How fitting! FLOTHE: And about what time was that? Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. Its way down on the bottom. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. And it may not even be in there. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on CINDY: Um hmm. "In his mind there were good girls and bad girls.". Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. FLOTHE: Was it this one here is called like a checkered grip. Wonderful tram tour guide Cindy is starting her fourth year as a trail tram tour driver for MCRF. CINDY: (interrupting) Well, I went over there cause at first I didnt recognize him. FLOTHE: Did he seem pretty sincere about wanting to get with you? And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. Your email address will not be published. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. *EDIT * Cindy did not escape from the plane, she hopped out of his car. Top nutrition scientist says you should drink as many varieties as possible UK's electric car revolution stalls: Britain falling behind US and Europe in race to become an EV Charles evicting Harry and Meghan is the act of a King putting his country first: REBECCA ENGLISH reveals A royal princess at Eton? (inaudible) Your email address will not be published. I saw him the next day, Sunday. Can you tell us how that all came about? And that, um, I was lucky because usually the other ones stayed a week. FLOTHE: Do you remember how he was dressed on Sunday? The killer had been in declining health for the past year, the department said. It was super fun and really quick. Your email address will not be published. CINDY: Sunday. Your email address will not be published. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. We all have the same needs. Psychology tells us that we all process things differently things that you may be able to shrug off, incidents which may make you stronger and more determined could emotionally break someone else quite literally. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: OK. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. to start my podcast and YouTube channel. And he suggested that we could go to his place. FLOTHE: Really dark color. See how my sights are painted with an orange Hansens House, Old Harbor Road (copyright Leland E. Hale). What are your thoughts on the reception to Spring Breakers? He remains active in the markets. He used it to stab her in the back, he said. Healthy mother-of-two, 32, collapsed and died from brain bleed while she led fitness bounce class, Taking Vitamin D each day could cut your chances of getting dementia, study claims. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) CINDY: Im positive. Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. FLOTHE: Did you give him your phone number or did he write it down on something? You rarely see mention of them, other than the fact that they existed, and I read through multiple articles before I even spotted Mrs. Hansens first name. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. And hes short. And who showed you those pictures? 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. Were able to have honest and trusting conversations about how to make BC, and hopefully the industry, a place We must take small steps to make a positive change in the workplace and industry and, right now, its We work to create a more inclusive space because everyone deserves to live and embrace their truths. Join Facebook to connect with Cindy Paulson and others you may know. You enjoy my work and would like to read exclusive articles, you can join my Patreon for as little as $3! "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. People either loved it or they hated it. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Four door. Its nice because I can watch it from an outsiders perspective and be sucked into it, which is cool. CINDY: Up to the house. I looked in the back, OK, there was like a you know how seats in front have covers theyre metal? What made you want to do it? CINDY PAWLCYN Award-winning chef, cookbook author and founder of a dozen restaurants, Cindy Pawlcyn reveals a few of her secrets to starting a successful bus. He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. CINDY: It was a black * I would like to talk about Roberts wife, Darla, and their two children for a minute. [Installment Three]. CINDY: He approached me. Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. 37 Cindy Paulson Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images CREATIVE Collections Project #ShowUs Creative Insights EDITORIAL VIDEO BBC Motion Gallery NBC News Archives MUSIC BLOG BROWSE PRICING ENTERPRISE VisualGPS INSIGHTS BOARDS CART SIGN IN Images Images Creative Editorial Video Creative Editorial FILTERS CREATIVE EDITORIAL VIDEO And um, after he had got the condom on, I kept doing it, and then he kept feeling around my neck, like he was just trippin, playing around with my neck and my necklaces. I think before you mentioned something being on the roof of the house. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. John Paulson. He takes me up the stairs to the garage, I mean, to the house. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. CINDY: The automatic opener. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? Glenn Flothe, AST. That was why [Hansen] kept telling me to lay down. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. I personally loved it. 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